CATASTROPHIST MODELS
Important Questions?
A. What is the main claim of each theory?
B. How and when did the Earth form?
C. How and when did the largely granitic/sedimentary continents and the largely basaltic ocean basins form?
D. How and when did sedimentary rock strata form?
E. How and when did mountains form?
F. What Earth cataclysms occurred and when?
G. Which space objects caused which of the cataclysms and how?
D. Re Sedimentary Rock Strata:
1. What's wrong with the mainstream theory that the strata formed by gradual erosion and deposition of sediment over millions of years?
2. What's wrong with John Baumgardner’s theory that the strata formed about 6kya in a Great Flood of tidal waves caused by a body on an elliptical orbit around the Earth?
3. What's wrong with Moses’ and Wal Thornhill’s theory that the strata formed by rapid electrical erosion of the supercontinent that carved out the Atlantic Ocean basin and others and deposited the powdered rock on the remainder of the continents?
E. Re Mountain Formation:
F. Re Earth cataclysms:
G. Which space objects caused which of the cataclysms and how?
EDM Formation of Atlantic Ocean & Deposition of Sedimentary Strata::
www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2013/08/06/the-norwegian-fjords/www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/arch05/051205matter.htmwww.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=16534&p=117342thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1913&sid=1202ba2484145c57a5e3ba73a5a3bb02www.saturniancosmology.org/files/juergens/juergensscars.txtCharles vs EDM:
www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=884&hilit=charleschandler+edm&start=135Asteroid Impact Formation of Atlantic Ocean and Rapid Continental Drift:
newgeology.us/ &
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Determining how the Earth formed should help prove catastrophism.
Nebular Theory of Formation of the Solar System:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL3YNQK960YCharles Chandler’s Model for Star & Planet Formation:
qdl.scs-inc.us/?top=6031A. Can we agree to define catastrophism as the science of natural catastrophes or cataclysms that have caused widespread human deaths? What have been the main catastrophes?
B. Re Earth Formation:
1. What's wrong with the mainstream theory that the Earth and solar system formed 4.6Gya by the gravitational nebular accretion model?
2. What's wrong with the Thunderbolts.info theory that the Earth and solar system formed at an unknown time by electrodynamic magnetic Bennet-pinches of an interstellar plasma filament?
3. What's wrong with Charles Chandler's theory that the Earth and solar system formed by electrostatic implosions in plasma filaments formed from supernova ejecta collisions with gas clouds or collisions between gas clouds?
4. What's wrong with Dwardu Cardona's theory that the Earth as part of the Saturn system formed in the Sagittarius dwarf galaxy and was later captured by the solar system?
C. Re Supercontinent Formation:
What's wrong with Charles Chandler's and Mike Fischer's theories that the supercontinent formed from the collision with the Earth of a granitic asteroid that also formed the Moon?
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1. Catastrophes: the Diluvial Evidence [Journals] [SIS Review]
... Solar System between 14,300 and 11,000 years ago. However it now seems it might have happened much more recently, around 700 years ago [41, 44]. Whatever their origin, the extraterrestrial bodies generally struck the Earth while travelling in a NE to SW direction from Alaska to S. America. As evidence, ____Allan and Delair drew attention to the presence of innumerable oval lakes with a NE/SW orientation along the supposed path [18, 41]. In the view of ____Allan and Delair, these events also caused extensive vulcanism, together with hurricanes and massive floods. The increased tilt of the Earth, would have led to colder climates at ...
2. Planet in Crisis: the Earth's Last 12,000 Years [Journals] [SIS Review]
... of inner-Earth viscosity, may be regarded as abnormalities. Yet a number of these features, including axial inclinations and eccentric orbital paths, are shared by several of Earth's planetary neighbours, so are the terrestrial equivalents really normal' ones? The evidence suggests otherwise. A selection of this evidence and its pan-solar system ramifications, has been discussed by ____Allan and Delair [36]. There ought to be no reason why any Earth-like planet undisturbed for untold ages should not have a vertically-positioned axis. This would unify the locations of the geographical and magnetic poles, ensure equal daylight hours in all latitudes and virtually eliminate the seasons. There would be no necessity for various subcrustal layers to rotate ...
3. Erratics [Journals] [Velikovskian]
... glaciers and they could push a thousand ton block uphill for twenty miles. If they could not, then we have only to imagine our glacier forty times as large instead of twenty. However, in terms of basic physics, Brewster was entirely wrong with respect to the power of a flow to move a huge block of stone. As ____Allan and Delair succinctly show: "Experiments have established that the force exerted on a surface increases as the square of the velocity, and varies as the sixth power of the velocity of the [water] current involved. For instance, a current able to move a cube of given weight would, if its velocity doubled, be capable ...
4. Crustal Distortion in the Holocene [Journals] [SIS Workshop]
... textbooks claim it was a period of tundra conditions, a post-glacial phase of cold temperature marking a transition between the glacial and the warmer climate that was to follow. However, there is an alternative way of looking at the Pre-Boreal that is, perhaps, a little underrated. Assuming the Pleistocene ended in a great catastrophe along the lines of ____Allan and Delair [5 ], who attribute the origin of till and boulder clays to that catastrophe, we may note that Michael Reed, in his book The Landscape of Britain [6 ], claims that most of Britain is covered by glacial tills. This was, in effect, the basic material on which plants and insects made
5. Catastrophobia by Barbara Hand Clow (Book review) [Journals] [SIS Review]
... leaving only tantalising physical hints of its existence but a wealth of mythological references and subconscious memories in the survivors. Those readers who have felt themselves drawn to these ideas may find new perspectives on the subject but this book is of a completely different ilk from the scientific, rationally argued approach of authors such as Velikovsky, Clube and Napier and ____Allan and Delair and may not appeal to those who are not sympathetic to spiritualism and astrology. The subtitle indicates this other aspect very well. Clow believes that humankind has now begun a great spiritual awakening from our traumatic past and that we may be able to look forward to a better future as we approach a new astrological age, despite ...
6. Buried Forests [Journals] [Velikovskian]
... of Marquette, Michigan . . . . Throughout the excavation there is no evidence that glacial override occurred following the period of growth such as the presence of distorted strata, sheared trees, or intercalated till."167 Although I have cited only a few such sites in the United States, there are a great many others as discussed by ____Allan and Delair all across North America.168 Of course, pollen studies clearly indicate that during the Ice Age large, deciduous forest trees did not grow in North America near the icecaps, thus they could not have been buried during these cold periods. Now it is reasonable to assume local floods would have buried a few trees a few
1. Obituary: Derek Scott ____Allan (1917-2000) [Journals] [SIS Review]
... From: SIS Chronology & Catastrophism Review 2001:2 (Jan 2002) Home | Issue Contents Obituary Derek Scott ____Allan (1917-2000)J. Bernard Delair Derek Scott ____Allan was born in Harrogate in March 15th, 1917 to Douglas (a medical officer of health) and Mildred ____Allan. They moved to Sunderland when he was a small ... but he went to school near Hoddesdon, Hertfordshire and then at St.John's College, Cambridge. Derek initially studied law (his father's choice) but switched to the natural sciences, gaining an MA in 1939. At Cambridge, he developed an intense interest in glacial geology and the vexed problem of permanently refrigerated carcasses of mammoths and coeval ...
2. C&C Review 2001:1: Contents [Journals] [SIS Review]
... 2001:1 Texts Home | SIS Review Home Chronology & Catastrophism Review Journal of the Society for Interdisciplinary Studies 2001:2 News 2 Articles Arctic Anomalies 3 A review by Derek ____Allan of the strange geology of permafrost and the arctic regions. The Ring About The Earth At 2300 BC 8 Moe Mandelkehr develops his theory of a 2300BC catastrophe with ... explanation of its cause The Valley of Colours 18 Nesta Caiger describes the discovery of a source of pigments used in Egyptian art. Apocalyptic Imagery In Modern Political Spectacle 20 Irving Wolfe analyses the rituals of the Nazis and finds evidence of suppressed memories. The Role Of The Nile In Egyptian Chronology 26 Lynn E. Rose takes on both David Rohl ...
3. Editor's Notes & News C&C Review 2001:2 [Journals] [SIS Review]
... and with new evidence it is gaining increasing support in the scientific community. In this issue Moe finally outlines his theory about what cosmic events could have triggered the catastrophe. Derek ____Allan was noted for his work with Bernard Delair on a catastrophe affecting Earth about 10,000 years ago, as outlined in their book The Day The Earth Nearly ... . Sadly Derek died before we could publish his paper of Arctic Anomalies'; as can be seen, it is a fascinating catalogue of evidence that an extraordinary catastrophe has affected the polar regions within the not too distant past. On the historical side, Nesta Caiger's Valley of Colours' highlights a small but significant contribution made by SIS members ...
4. An Unexplained Arctic Catastrophe – Part II: Some Unanswered Questions [Journals] [SIS Review]
... From: SIS Chronology & Catastrophism Review 2005 (Sep 2005) Home | Issue Contents An Unexplained Arctic Catastrophe – Part II: Some Unanswered Questions Derek S. ____Allan As the primary intention of my previous survey of the Sibero-Alaskan permafrost' formation was to emphasise its apparent cataclysmic origin around 11,500 years ago, its remarkable geographical extent ... the enigmatic character of its composition, and its locally enormous vertical depth [1 ], certain other related factors and problems were not perforce touched upon then. Six of these, now considered below, need to be satisfactorily accommodated if this great Arctic mystery is ever to be properly unravelled. Still others also exist, but are not dealt ...
5. Index of Authors
... Thera: Chronology at a Crossroads? Bernard Newgrosh, Venus and the Jubilee Bi-monthly Periodical ARK UPDATE, The Discovery of Noah's Ark Birgit C. Leisching, In Memoriam: Derek Shelley-Pearce Birgit C. Liesching, Natural Catastrophes During Bronze Age Civilisations Birgit Liesching, Society News: SIS Autumn Conference 2000 Bob Johnson, Cradle of Saturn Bob Johnson, ... the Skeptical Inquirer (Part II) Alice Miller, The Kensington Runestone, John Whittaker and the Skeptical Inquirer (Part I) Alistair F, Pitty, Catastrophism and Uniformitarianism ____Allan Beggs, Exploring The Saturn Myth ____Allan Beggs, Fomenko is right! Amelia Acheson, The Electric Universe: Slide Presentation & Notes by Wallace Thornhill Andrew Hamilton, The ...
6. An Unexplained Arctic Catastrophe [Journals] [SIS Review]
... From: SIS Chronology & Catastrophism Review 2001:2 (Jan 2002) Home | Issue Contents ARTICLES An Unexplained Arctic Catastrophe by Derek S. ____Allan Recent claims by scientists that Arctic Ocean ice is melting for the first time in 50 million years' run counter to well-established facts about this region. It is appropriate to examine the evidence ... determine if those latest assertions really are correct or whether, with the advantage of hindsight, the earlier well-established facts' were false. Arctic Anomalies The Arctic is a unique region, in that its history is, quite literally, frozen in time. The frozen evidence indicates, quite unmistakably, that a climatic temperate zone vegetation (known from ...
7. Has Science Got it Wrong? – Remarks on the Arctic [Journals] [SIS Review]
... :1 Incorporating Workshop 2004:2 (May 2004) Home | Issue Contents Has Science Got it Wrong? – Remarks on the Arctic Evidence of the Great Pleistocene Extinction Derek S. ____Allan When asked what they understand by the term Ice Age' most people seemingly believe it to have been an era when continuous icesheets blanketed Arctic regions intercontinentally ... to approximately latitude 30 degrees N in America and latitude 50 degrees N in Europe. The resultant bleak landscape is also often imagined (especially by artists) as having hosted isolated stands of coniferous trees and large quadrupedal mammals like the yak, the Hairy Mammoth, and the Woolly Rhinoceros hunted by fur-clad ancestral Man. The origins of such concepts ...
8. C&C Review 2004:1 inc. Workshop 2004:2 Contents [Journals] [SIS Review]
... Chronology & Catastrophism Review 2004:1 Incorporating Workshop 2004:2 Society News 2 Chronology & Catastrophism Review Articles Has Science Got it Wrong? – Remarks on the Arctic 5 Derek S. ____Allan Neo-Assyrians and Achaemenids – A Test of Beards 9 Trevor Palmer Response to Bimson by Emmet Sweeney 20 Reviews 18 Monuments of the British Neolithic by Miles Russell ... by Phillip Clapham 22 Solving the Exodus Mystery by Ted T. Stewart Reviewed by Laurence Dixon 23 Wer Herrschte Im Industal? (Who Reigned in the Indus Valley?) by Gunnar Heinsohn Reviewed by Emmet Sweeney The History of Britain Revealed by M. J. Harper Reviewed by Jill Abery 24 Chronology & Catastrophism Workshop Letters From Michael G. ...
9. C&C Review 2005 [Journals] [SIS Review]
... Review 2005 Texts Home | SIS Review Home Society for Interdisciplinary Studies Chronology & Catastrophism Review 2005 Contents In Remembrance of Janek 2 Articles An Unexplained Arctic Catastrophe, Part II , Derek S. ____Allan 3 Catastrophism and the History of Life on Earth , Trevor Palmer 7 When the Sea Flooded Britain , Steve Mitchell 19 Reply to In Search of Alter ... ' , Emmet Sweeney 38 The Stream Surrounding the Earth , Moe Mandelkehr 41 Some implications of Saunders' Lunar Hypothesis , David Salkeld 48 Recent Developments In Near Eastern Archaeology by Bob Porter 54 Focus Independent Confirmation of a Catastrophic Event A consideration by Moe Mandelkehr of Iyengar's Profile of a Natural Disaster in Ancient Sanskrit Literature' 58 Book Reviews 60 Pillars ...
10. Society News [Journals] [SIS Review]
... however, have the additional pleasure of an unadvertised paper from Clark Whelton, whose personal knowledge of Velikovsky set the tone for the weekend. We were also pleased to welcome Derek ____Allan, co-author of The Day the Earth Nearly Died, and Milton Zysman, who kept several of the speakers on their toes although he was not presenting one of ... own thought provoking lectures. The conference was rounded off with a panel discussion on the theme Dare to think' as a tribute to Velikovsky. What are the reasons for people to follow in his footsteps today and consider the implications of a recent catastrophic past for mankind? These are probably as varied as our members themselves, ranging from those ...
12. News C&C Review 2001:1 [Journals] [SIS Review]
... see his name surface in publications of other organisations such as the British Society of Dowsers. Recently he had become interested in the electric universe' theory of Laszlo Kortvelyessy. Derek ____Allan Sadly Derek ____Allan died in early 2001, after a long battle with cancer. Derek had a longstanding interest in catastrophism, collaborating with Charles Hapgood and Bernard Delair ... An article by him on Arctic Anomalies' is in preparation for publication and a full obituary will appear in the next issue of C&CR. Daniel Kline (1917-2000) I was first introduced to Daniel Kline through his book Thomas Young Forgotten Genius (Vidan Press, Cincinnati, 1993, reviewed in C&CW 1993:2 pp ...
15. Catastrophes: the Diluvial Evidence [Journals] [SIS Review]
... around 12,000 years ago were not a continuation of previous trends, nor did they take place over a long timescale. For example, the retired British geologists, Derek ____Allan and Bernard Delair, argued in When the Earth Nearly Died (1995), that catastrophic events, including an increase in the Earth's axial tilt, occurred around ... ,500 years ago. The catastrophes were caused by the close passage of a sizeable cosmic body (which gave rise to the Phaeton legend) and the impact of a number of smaller companions. They claimed that these could all have been products of the Vela supernova explosion, which at the time was thought to have occurred in a part ...
25. Society News [Journals] [SIS Workshop]
... : David Salkeld (UK) The Velikovsky Centenary Conference, New York Dr John Dayton What do the Antarctic Ice (UK/Tenerife)Cores reveal about mankind's past? Derek ____Allan & J B Delair (UK) When the Earth Nearly Died: Evidence of a World Cataclysm in 9,500BC Graham Hancock Fingerprints of the Gods Dr Heribert ... (Munich, Germany) Cosmic Catastrophes and the origins of Megalithic Cultures Dr Mark Bailey (UK) Results from the 1995 Tunguska Conference' in Russia Prof Dr Gunnar Heinsohn: Imaginary and Expected (Bremen/Germany) Catastrophes - Apocalyptic Desire and Scientific Prognosis Dr Benny J Peiser (UK) Slide Show: Great Balls of Fire. The